Khairy liabiliti buat siapa
Kenyataan Khairy mengenai sikap masyarakat Cina yang mengambil kesempatan ketika UMNO bergolak mendapat kritikan khususnya dari Gerakan. Mahu tidak mahu kenyataan beliau tersebut ada kebenarannya tetapi ada yang mengatakan bahawa itu adalah isu sensitif perkauman. Tidak kurang pula dari pembangkang yang mengatakan bahawa ini adalah untuk mengalih pandangan dari isu kritikan terhadap Pak Lah kepada isu perkauman. Khairy Jamaluddin adalah antara mereka yang dikritik dan mungkin mendapat tempat sebagai " Ultra - Malay " setanding dengan nama seperti Dr Mahathir Mohamed diawal penglibatan beliau dalam politik.
Mungkin isu bangsa ini tidak boleh dikompromi dan Melayu secara jelas nampak tercicir. Isu yang dibawa oleh Khairy mengenai tuntutan Cina sewaktu UMNO bergolak mempunyai asas yang boleh diterima. Namun dari segi politik ini akan menjarakkan masyarakat Cina dari UMNO dan Barisan Nasional. Adakah ini sedang berlaku? Blog ini memperlihatkan bahawa terdapat unsur - unsur kemarahan kaum lain mengenai isu yang dibawa ini.
Rentetan dari kenyataan Khairy itu beberapa isu besar yang melibatkan perhubungan antara kaum timbul. Antaranya adalah tuntutan penggiliran Ketua Menteri, isu ketinggalan masyarakat Melayu Pulau Pinang dan berbagai isu khusus mengenai ketidakpuasan komponen BN timbul. Adakah ini tidak akan memberi impak terhadap sokongan Cina dan bangsa lain terhadap Barisan Nasional? Sekiranya ini berlaku adakah ini boleh menjejaskan Barisan Nasional dalam pilihanraya akan datang? Mungkinkah kenyataan Khairy Jamaluddin dan tindakan beliau boleh dianggap sebagai liabiliti buat Barisan Nasional. Sekiranya beliau liabiliti adakah wajar beliau mengundurkan diri. Apa kata anda?
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Thursday September 21, 9:21 PM
Malaysia chides Singapore's Lee over race comments
KUALA LUMPUR (Reuters) - Malaysia denied on Thursday that it mistreated its ethnic Chinese minority, responding to criticism from former Singapore leader Lee Kuan Yew.
"It's a comment that we can do without. It is not appreciated at all," Malaysian Deputy Prime Minister Najib Razak said, referring to recent remarks made by Lee.
Lee told a forum in Singapore last Friday that it was vital for Singapore, a predominantly ethnic Chinese state, to stand up to its bigger, mainly Muslim neighbours, Indonesia and Malaysia.
"Our neighbours both have problems with their Chinese. They are successful. They are hard-working and therefore they are systemically marginalised," Lee said.
Singapore and Malaysia have deep economic ties, but diplomatic relations are often strained. The two countries briefly united as one country in 1963 but separated two years later in a falling out related to racial politics.
Indonesia and Malaysia "want Singapore, to put it simply, to be like their Chinese -- compliant", said Lee, who was Singapore's prime minister from 1965 to 1990. ADVERTISEMENT
Najib said Malaysia did not marginalise ethnic Chinese or Indians in favour of majority ethnic Malays, who are known as bumiputras (sons of the soil).
"Malaysia does not practise a policy of blocking opportunities for non-bumiputras to progress further," he said.
As for Khairy, it is a statement which is uncall for. Stupidity is the only good word for him.
Najib commented that the Chinese was never been marginalised and Khairy went overboard by saying that we Chinese demand unfairly towards our rights.
For that matter, we do feel that the Chinese are systemically marginalised and statement from Khairy Jamalluddin about us definately contributed to that feeling.
Khairy bukan sahaja liability buat Barisan Nasinal, Pemuda Umno tetapi liability buat Pak Lah.
Hari ini Pak Lah dikritik kuat adalah kerana peranan Khairy dalam Umno.
Khairy juga bagi saya telah menconteng arang ke muka Pak Lah dengan isu seperti pembelian ECM Libra dan tindakan memberi kenyataan berbau perkauman.
Melihat posting disini saya berpendapat sentimen bangsa asing seperti Cina sedang di godam untuk menaikan kemarahan buat Umno. Khairy turut mencurahkan minyak kedalam api.
Untuk ini, BN akan pasti menghadapi jalan sukar pada pilihanraya akan datang tanpa sokongan Cina.
taktik begini dah lapuk,menyalahkan kaum cina utk menyatukan melayu dalam umno!kalau melayu bersatu pun tak lama,seperti penyatuan UMNO dan PAS selepas May 13 kerana masing-masing mempunyai agenda tertentu dan kepentingan sendiri!melayu yang menyalahkan cina untuk naik di bidang politik tidak akn kekal lama!
Apa pun Melayu memang tercicir dan apa yg dibaca nampak ada ketidakpuasan hati masyarakat kaum lain terhadap kita.
Kita harus sedar bahawa perkara ini perlu ditangani dan org seperti Khairy ini hanya tahu berpolitik tetapi tidak punya rasa untuk rakyat.
Pemimpin harus hadir dari kalangan rakyat dan kehadiran seperti Khairy akan hanya menyusahkan rakyat.
Gerakan Nafi Cina Malaysia "Pak Turut"
KUALA LUMPUR, 22 Sept (Bernama) -- Masyarakat Cina di Malaysia tidak dipinggirkan atau menjadi "pak turut" seperti yang didakwa Menteri Mentor Singapura Lee Kuan Yew, kata Timbalan Presiden Gerakan Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon.
Beliau berkata masyarakat Cina di negara ini sebaliknya diberi peluang untuk turut serta dalam pentadbiran negara dan diberi ruang bersama kaum Melayu dan India untuk menyuarakan pandangan dan perasaan mereka mengenai pelbagai isu.
"Masyarakat Cina selain pemimpin pembangkang, pemimpin komuniti dan pemimpin politik dalam Barisan Nasional (BN) pun sering mengemukakan pandangan kami melalui Kabinet, Parlimen, forum dan saluran lain," kata Dr Koh yang juga Ketua Menteri Pulau Pinang kepada pemberita selepas majlis pelancaran Universiti Terbuka Wawasan di sini hari Jumaat.
Universiti itu dirasmikan oleh Menteri Pengajian Tinggi Datuk Mustapa Mohamed di Menara PGRM di sini.
Dr Koh berkata demikian ketika diminta mengulas laporan media mengenai kenyataan Lee di Singapura Jumaat lepas yang menyentuh layanan Malaysia dan Indonesia terhadap kaum Cina di kedua-dua negara.
Lee dalam laporan itu dipetik sebagai berkata orang Cina di Malaysia dan Indonesia "dipinggirkan secara sistematik".
Dr Koh berkata cabaran yang dihadapi pemimpin negara adalah lebih besar berbanding yang dihadapi di Singapura kerana Malaysia terdiri daripada pelbagai kaum dengan kedudukan ekonomi yang berbeza.
"Di Malaysia kita ini berbilang kaum, berbilang bangsa, (dan kita mempunyai)kawasan yang lebih luas, bandar yang pesat membangun, tetapi kawasan luar bandar termasuk di Sabah dan Sarawak masih mundur lagi dengan masalah pengangkutan dan komunikasi.
"Oleh itu amatlah penting kita lebih fokus untuk membangunkan negara ini supaya tidak ada kumpulan yang merasa terpinggir," katanya.
Sementara itu, Presiden Gerakan Datuk Seri Dr Lim Keng Yaik berkata kenyataan Lee adalah tidak benar.
"Beliau silap, meneliti perkara di luar konteks. Singapura adalah berbeza daripada Malaysia," katanya.
-- BERNAMA
I have lost confidence with the BN controlled government from the day I left for US. I also was rewarded with financial assistant that I could not get while I was in Malaysia.
Malaysia would not be achieved Vision 2020 if preferential treatments for malays still prevail. Pak Lah and gang should start scrapping the discriminatory policy be it public or private sector.
Don't mention about coming back to the Malaysians overseas. This is like an ugly woman who keeps on telling all the men around the world, "Please marry me. You are ungrateful for not marrying me………." - Malaysia would better be a nice woman first.
Feel appreciated? These people are being polite. Many would return if only they feel they are not being robbed. The truth is the NEP is really robbery. It is basically an unfair tax system that robs the future of non-malays.
Let say you run a company. Imagine being asked to invest in a country that taxes you higher than most people. Imagine also that the more you can make, the higher the tax rate while majority of others gets tax breaks and subsidies.
Also, if you are successful, you have to give up some equity, even majority in some cases. Who would invest?
For non-malays it is the same, when they choose to work and live in Malaysia, it is an investment both personal and financial. They get the bare necessary support and often thrown obstacles along the way.
They pay most of the taxes and their savings are abused. If they are successful especially very successful, they are expected to give it up, and not to the needy and deserving, but mostly to the wasteful, undeserving and arrogant.
It is a no brained for towering non-malays. In fact it is a no brained for all non-malays.
My sincere advice to these towering Malaysians is, to stay where you are and don't come back! Also think of your children's future and education, which this country cannot provide.
This country only wants thieves, non-skilled labourers and criminals from Indonesia, Bosnia and Bangladesh. The only qualification is that he is a Muslim.
My brother found a job in Australia two weeks after graduation. Got his PR a few weeks later. All individuals I have spoken to compliment and agree it is the right thing to do.
Not one has the slightest disagreement with my brother decision. The sentiment among my relatives and peers are obvious. There is no pride for non-malays in Malaysia and never will.
I got a few friends in UK, Swiss, to further PhD in biotech. They won't come back to Malaysia as Malaysia can't provide them the technology that they currently using, studying. Of course they feel unfair in the Malaysia system. That is it, Time to change……….
Recently I have talked to Malaysia friends about the issue of returning home. Not surprise me that they all have their Australia PR.
Please do not criticize us that we are not loyalty, we are grown up in national schools, we do not really have "well-funded education" as a Malaysian should be. The main concern for us is the secure feeling of staying in Malaysia.
Despite the public security, it is more about uncertainty we have percept since we are born. I do not expect my children future ruin in your hands.
I think all Malaysians should try hard to educate their children to be global citizens, i.e. give them an education that will enable them to survive anywhere even in India or China.
But if you are a connected crony your children will be able to prosper for the next two generations until or at least our energy reserves run out.
After that we hope they will be able to make the correct life choices. If they settle overseas it means we have less hotel bills to pay when we tour!
Malaysia may yet change for the better. The one minister got it right this time - "You can't fool all the people all the time".
Everyday I remind myself this: Study harder; make money. The grass is greener on the other side, not for myself but definitely for my children.
Migration is perfectly normal. But it is the circumstance of one decision to migrate is the issue.
Please all of you don't come back. Malaysia does not want intelligent people: they are difficult to control (i.e. LKS, Karpal Singh, etc).
I have so many friends and children of friends, who stay overseas that when I go there, I feel more at home than here! I feel free there!
I went to bed troubled at the huge loss of talents that could have helped Malaysia become another Japan. So many brilliant people are coming forward to narrate how they made good in other countries when Malaysia, the country they were born and bred in, failed to treat them fairly.
Everyone knows Japan story.
The Japanese phoenix worked because they built back their country as one people. They didn't have a Petronas rebuilding the country. They were a country starved of natural resources, but the biggest asset and wealth of post-war Japan was the people themselves. They recognised and made full use of the talents of the people, for the country.
As long as the NEP and the affirmative policies are in place, more and more will emigrate and the loser is Malaysia.
The solution is simple. However, in this country everything boiled down to pampering one race which has proven again and again that it is not working after 50 years.
Our leaders are not bothered about all these messages and they will brand the emigrants as not patriot to avoid finding solution for the long benefit of the country.
To all, for time being, emigrate to other country to teach a lesson to BN the hard way.
Well, I don't think he even knows what his responsibilities as prime minister are. Most probably, he will say that he was not informed of his duties.
Correct me if I am wrong, but by blatantly and frequently announcing that I am in control, the country is fine, Umno is unbreakable etc, over the news and the newspapers a little bit too often, will only show a great disrespect and an unimaginable insult to the intelligence of Malaysians and others all over the world.
You think we are that stupid? Fooling everybody by a mere announcement? Even my dog barks like a fool listening to your announcements. Pak Lah and BN, your days are numbered.
Hahaha! My toes are laughing. Pak Lah. You are much in control?
Don't make a fool of yourself again! The whole world knew what type of prime minister you are. Only your half-past-six cabinet agree with you.
Simply because, with you as prime minister, they have a freer hand to "do whatever they like". If I am one of them, I love to have you as the prime minister. Only you think you are in control.
Hey, Pak Lah, time to wake up or else you will wake up one day and find that our Malaysian females have to travel to or Philippines, Thailand or Vietnam to work as maids. Or the males have to go to Thailand to harvest paddy.
By saying you are in control is of no use. We have ears to hear and eyes to see and most importantly a brain to think. Maybe he didn't even read what his duties are as a prime minister apart from taking care of his family.
Is Pak Lah is in control of Malaysia. Who said he is not in control in the first place?
He control who? The cabinet and country are in disarray. Economic is nose diving and people are complaining about high cost of living with poor quality of life. Crime is going up but our country's Governance Indicators coming down.
Fantastic Bolehland! Who control who? "I am in control" is joke of the year!
This is the Pak Lah's way of managing the country. Arrogant, backstabbing, calling names, disrespectful, and the list goes on. Yes, he is very much in control. The BN is getting more and more morally decay everyday. Bravo!
Don't worry, the deputy prime minister will come up with our own Malaysia Governance Indicators where we are top in all categories.
Third world government must group with third world countries, Burma, Laos, Vietnam. What more proof is needed that we are third world class? Hey, you think we are top in third world countries?
That is the greatest joke in the world. If a leader has to keep reminding his people that "he is in control", that has two meanings:
1. The leader is actually "not in control" and fear that people might not respect him, so he has to stress that he is still in control
2. The people don't know who is in control, so the poor leader has to remind them
Sadly, both of these happen in this country. The people (especially those Umno Youth) don't know who is the actual leader of this country. Ask them (Umno Youth) and maybe they would tell you Khairy, but not Pak Lah.
See what they did in Penang? They demonstrated in front of prime ministe, have they shown any respect to him? No! Why? Because they don't know who the leader of this country is.
Fight corruption, that will remain a slogan forever in Malaysia. Ong Tee Keat revealed the corrupted practices, but what happened to him? Get bombarded by other minister! Poor thing!
What Pak Lah has done on this matter? Nothing! Why? Because he is not in control of everything and dare not take any action. So, just keep quite and let the other monkeys do the job.
In control……….yup, in control of nothing!
All the news on "I am in control" actually is not the greatest joke of the year, the greatest joke are all the Gerakan/MCA/MIC agreeing to what he says.
If he is in control then please control the fast mouth of Nazri. Looks like he is out of control. His mouth moves faster than his puny brain.
I don't know who has the lousier speechwriter - the pope or our prime minister! Words without action mean little - in this case, it weakens the position of the speaker further.
Just look at Singapore story. Even China taps Lee Kuan Yew's brain on how to progress in the global market.
Pak Lah is not in control of Malaysia and his people, as we can observe that some ministers and some top government officials dared to defy him publicly, e.g. the chief minister of Sabah and the new Musa.
He can't even shut Khairy mouth up who has been talking about rubbish recently.
Even in developed economy like Britain, financial support of similar concept is available in UK based on need.
Remember, millions if not billions of ringgits had already been spent to uplift the status of malays via education. What have we achieved so far?
Sorry for such a pessimistic view. After all, if our Malaysia leaders are into corruptions without checks and balances, what hope is there for the betterment of the society at large!
Basically, we need to reform our political system especially Umno and if that can be done, hopefully everything will fall into place.
We may have the noblest of aims but along the way some smart apes from the ruling party or the education minister himself would make a mess of the programme making aids a convenient political tool.
Political gerrymandering has been perfected to an art by the ruling elite. So, what are we left with? Crump.
A good example is the recent case involving Ong Tee Keat the deputy higher education minister. He pointed out a wrongdoing whereby a Chinese school got billed of RM30000 for a RM3000 job and a badly done one at that.
Instead of kudos he was reprimanded by no less than the deputy prime minister and the education minister. Very obviously the action by these Umno-malays are seen to be condoning wrongdoings and protecting wrongdoers who could have come from their party.
If our leaders have such a mindset I doubt very much the type of investments in human capital schemes proposed will ever succeed.
In this country, as far as the ruling elite is concerned the interest of their party and members come first followed by the bumi dichotomy, religion and race. The rest of the people can leave the country if they don't like it here.
That is the very reason why we must have laws to protect whistleblowers. But when the blowing is done on Umno-malays and their cronies how on earth will such laws be enacted!
You get to see the same faces on national TV, always smiling and always saying this and that, as if we are all idiots. Don't they have a conscience?
Will this charade ever end? Search me. Maybe God is being too nice.
And that is also the very reason we must support Mahathir, not so much for he himself, but for his crusades. It seems that he is the only one person in Malaysia for the time being that can inflict some damages to the smiling faces on national TV.
But it will be a great mistake if they are celebrating now. Knowing Mahathir he will not let them go that easily. War has been declared and this is only the beginning!
Umno is the big brother in Barisan and so it is unthinkable for a younger sibling to point fingers at the elder.
There is something unusual about the Umno/malay psyche - if there is a scandal, cover up. They only want speak, see and hear good.
When Umno fellows made mistakes they said misunderstood and offers no apologies. They obediently sit at the foot of the master and silently let out a pathetic sorry feeling.
No wonder in Malaysia our mentality is still third world because no one can comment on anything especially when it comes to mismanagement or corruption of funds.
So when Hisham wield keris in it is ok. When UPM students go rowdy it is also ok. Everything to his-shame-Hisham is ok as long as it is beneficial to Umno……….No!
High time everyone say No - to Umno.
A good offence in Umno is to project the Ketuanan Melayu, which ensures grass-root votes. So Hisham, who sends his children to international schools, cannot be caught napping over his watch and woe betides those who try to ridicule his ministry.
This is the sad state of the country today. In almost 50 years of independence, we have yet to learn to move away from racial aggravation and communal politics, instead of focusing on a global platform beyond our borders.
As long as guys like Khairy, with an Oxford degree, and Hisham, with a law degree, project themselves for personal glory with racial politics, Malaysia will be in trouble.
The education minister is a disgrace, behaving in a very insecure and immature manner.
How could a person with such behaviors, using intimidation, fear and aggression, be appointed education minister to set an example for our children? His behaviors have no place in a progressive, modern and civilized society.
The only difference between the component parties of BN is Umno is prepared to scarify national interest at all costs for party and individual interest.
It is time for smaller BN component parties, including Umno fair-minded and decent politicians, to leave BN unhealthy and damaging environment to form alternative government, to protect and place national interests first.
What do you expect from a country where you have ministers who are high above the law? They of course behave like goons. Since when was this type of stupid directive ever invented?
What a load of bullshit! The fact is, not only the public fund for schools have been misused and abused - as this does not only apply to schools.
We just had another one for tsunami! Typical third world administration! Full of lies and craps, and not forgetting abuse!
This Hisham is really a moron as the way he blasted Ong Tee Keat. This shows that his mentality is just like a half-past-six minister with substandard quality.
Little did I know the life changing experience I was to face when I took up the opportunity to be trained in Germany back in 1972 after my A level.
On completion, I spent three years working in Singapore saving enough for a one-way ticket to UK for further studies. Graduated in 1979 with a degree in mechanical engineering and employed by ITT (International Telegraph and Telephone) in London, I was sponsored to continue a part-time master degree in computer science.
By mid-1980s, I was awarded a grant in robotic research at Imperial College. And further studies concluded an MA in e-business.
Having worked and lived in UK for 25 years, it was time to look back on my root in Malaysia. Initial programme by Malaysia government to lure back expertise did not impress me.
By this time I was married with two kids studying in better schools in UK than I can imagine possible in Malaysia. Fortunately I had the hindsight not to uproot my family back to Malaysia.
I understood the affirmative action to uplift the malays during my time. It was understandable and accepted by my generation in return for the right as citizens in Malaysia. In my eyes Umno had breached the contract with the non-malays.
Being born in Malaysia before 1957 and in the spirit of independence, my returning to help build a better Malaysia has been a mistake. I will not go into details here.
A short note should suffice for now. My trying to contribute to society by way of investment and helping the local students in predominantly poorer malay district was repeatedly delayed and later rejected for no reason at all or flimsy and it took me three years.
Contrast this with my experience of setting up and running a company in UK and Singapore in less than a month.
For those who are thinking of coming back to Malaysia I would advise them to think again. The only thing that attract me back to Malaysia in the first place was my connection to my parents who were in Malaysia and too frail to travel. Once they are gone, I have no more reasons to return.
For those who think I have sold my heritage by taking up British citizenship should know that there are no official policies to discriminate minorities in UK.
In fact minorities are often supported, as in the case of my kids Chinese language class, are provided free by the local government. We are judged by my abilities not on color of our skin or our beliefs.
Meanwhile my entire family has taken up British citizenship. I may have lost my right as Malaysian citizen but not the right to visit or stay in Malaysia (silver hair and second home program). My kids will never miss Malaysia (you can't miss what you did not have) and will look forward for a brighter future.
For those who are staying back to fight for their birthright as equal citizens in Malaysia, you have my support and admiration. I apologise for not being able to be with you for now and I hope you understand my decision. But I will in my own way contribute from afar to help in other ways.
To the Malaysia government, I quote, "You cannot build courage and character by taking away a man's initiative and independence." - Lincoln
(1) Some malays will say:
· Without Mahathir, who is going to fight for us?
· Without Mahathir, where can Malaysia go?
· Without Mahathir, we will all die!
(2) Independence malays will say:
· I don't need Mahathir to make a living.
· I don't need Mahathir to fight for my respect and dignity.
· I don't need Mahathir so that I can gain recognition on my own two feet.
But sadly to say, most Umno malays fall into category (1). The malays mindset, when are they going to change!
Umno malays mentality:
They want money but they don't want to work for it. They want investment but at the same time, they are afraid of being taken advantage by foreigners. The real fact is, nobody is taking advantage of them.
The fact is, Umno malay leader has spoil their own malays.
The fact is, Umno malay leader has never think about the malays.
The fact is, Umno malay leader in the name of "fighting for the rights of malays" has abuse their power to enrich themselves.
The fact is, Umno government has destroy their own reputation by being unfair to their own citizens include their own malays.
The fact is, Umno government has display no respect for international rules, no fair play, don't play by international rules, being a recalcitrant like Mahathir, and hence no respect from anybody on earth.
The fact is, Umno government is corrupted to the core and always wants something in return by just giving speech and signing a few documents.
The fact is, Umno government does not get much recognition from other nations except for third world countries like Zimbabwe, Somalia and Cuba.
The fact is, Umno government can never provide high skills job to the malays. MNC company can provide high skills job to the malays.
The fact is, there is no substantiate fact to justify that Umno malay leader has improve the education levels of their own malays.
The fact is, so many malays can't get high skills job is because Umno malay leader has fail to emphasize education as much as Chinese parents onto their children.
The fact is, Proton is failing. The fact is, MAS is failing. The fact is, Malaysia is failing.
The fact is, malay land will never be develop, unless Malaysian Chinese, Singaporeans or MNC company invest and create value out of it.
The fact is, Mahathir has brainwash malays into believing that Umno will be their free welfare system, insurance system, and also provides money and food for all malays as long as they can.
Can I say I am not surprised? Umno has all along been all about money, nothing else. The NEP has been concocted to cheat the malays into believing it is about them.
It is not about the malays. It is about lining their cronies pockets at the expense of the malays. Half of Malaysia knows it; only the malays do not!
Does anyone see any sense in their bickering? Is it about the people? Is it for the country? Listen to their conceited arguments; it is all about money and their positions.
These are selfish greedy politicians we are talking about! They are really hopeless!
For Chinese and Indian voters they can only choose the lesser of the two evils. It is either BN or DAP/Keadilan/PAS. Tell me which is better!
No matter which party is in power the issue of corruption will arise because power corrupts. Hence, unless we have an independent and very strong ACA, it will be all the same.
If BN and Umno is corrupt - vote them out and vote in the alternative party AP. The first few years of the AP rule would be normally be devoted to cleansing the sins left by the previous government including arresting and prosecuting the corrupt members of the previous BN government.
If the AP government later on is also found to be corrupt, vote them out again and vote in the BN again. Again the first few years of the BN rule would be devoted in cleansing the sins left by the AP corrupt government including the arrest and prosecution of AP ministers.
If this cycle goes on every five years, you will end up getting a clean government with no corrupt ministers.
Now you voted in and out a corrupt Umno every five years for the past 50 years. Pak Lah, knowing the sentiments of the people against corruption, hoodwinked you in saying he would eradicate corruption.
But then corruption is committed by his fellow BN and Umno members. Would he be that serious compared to what Lim Kit Siang would do if they were voted in power on combating corruption!
In Malaysia, corrupt Rafidah and other ministers get elected every five years.
Umno and its leaders are corrupt because you voted them in and out every five years irrespective of their corrupt acts and misdeeds.
Can I say I am not surprised? Umno has all along been all about money, nothing else. The NEP has been concocted to cheat the malays into believing it is about them.
It is not about the malays. It is about lining their cronies pockets at the expense of the malays. Half of Malaysia knows it; only the malays do not!
Does anyone see any sense in their bickering? Is it about the people? Is it for the country? Listen to their conceited arguments; it is all about money and their positions.
These are selfish greedy politicians we are talking about! They are really hopeless!
For Chinese and Indian voters they can only choose the lesser of the two evils. It is either BN or DAP/Keadilan/PAS. Tell me which is better!
No matter which party is in power the issue of corruption will arise because power corrupts. Hence, unless we have an independent and very strong ACA, it will be all the same.
If BN and Umno is corrupt - vote them out and vote in the alternative party AP. The first few years of the AP rule would be normally be devoted to cleansing the sins left by the previous government including arresting and prosecuting the corrupt members of the previous BN government.
If the AP government later on is also found to be corrupt, vote them out again and vote in the BN again. Again the first few years of the BN rule would be devoted in cleansing the sins left by the AP corrupt government including the arrest and prosecution of AP ministers.
If this cycle goes on every five years, you will end up getting a clean government with no corrupt ministers.
Now you voted in and out a corrupt Umno every five years for the past 50 years. Pak Lah, knowing the sentiments of the people against corruption, hoodwinked you in saying he would eradicate corruption.
But then corruption is committed by his fellow BN and Umno members. Would he be that serious compared to what Lim Kit Siang would do if they were voted in power on combating corruption!
In Malaysia, corrupt Rafidah and other ministers get elected every five years.
Umno and its leaders are corrupt because you voted them in and out every five years irrespective of their corrupt acts and misdeeds.
It is true that without meritocracy the malays will never be able to compete with anyone. The malays have to depend on the Chinese and Indians to do the work of the malays. So the malays are indeed helpless except to wait for the durian to drop.
The stronger the NEP the worse off it is for the malays. If malays cannot compete in their home, how can they compete in America! When the oil and gas run dry in Malaysia, the malays will be "maids" of the world, taking over from the Filipinos.
Bravo, NEP and otak udang malays. Time to learn to live in harmony with the valuable non-malays.
The NEP is unique in this world and while the system can fool the locals - they cannot fool the foreigners including our Asean partners. Let us be the only country not having free trade agreement (FTA) with the US. It is a great honour.
Why have FTA when our goods can already have access to the US markets. Only problem is we don't have competitive goods to market there!
That is the direct result of neglect to build an indigenous base of Malaysia manufacturers. Local entrepreneurs had been starved of support from the government more interested in giving free handouts with the money.
This is the direct result of short sightedness and mismanagement of Malaysia economy by the previous administration.
We hope Pak Lah will find ways to make Malaysia goods more competitive by supporting the best talents around instead of seeing them going away to foreign countries and competing against our products.
The way it is going, even I am going soon.
We are already by passed by many countries. Vietnam and Thailand are now the favored destinations. Yes, we are still too proud of being good for nothing. If we are not careful, prediction by somebody may come to reality.
Then you will find Malaysians plying as maids in Vietnam or Philippines. The males would probably be hounded as illegal immigrants in the said countries. Time to wake up! Others are passing us by.
We can export lot of things but the MNCs are mostly foreign or American owned, they are willing to make a long route sending back their goods to their countries because there are still comparative advantages after paying shipping costs. They will move out to other competitive regions when the advantages disappear.
Even if the playing field is leveled, the malays would still lose out because they have to play with their crutches on. Imagine playing football with crutches on. How to play? You take away their crutches in order for them to play better, they will complain they are not ready. So how?
Resistance is futile. You either surf the wave of globalization with a surfboard or you drown while trying to ride the wave using your wheelchairs and crutches.
Rafidah said that she will never compromise on the NEP etc, in her negotiations with the US. See what I mean about the NEP. This is Umno rice bowl, the special rights, the NEP, etc. This is how Umno's power is derived from.
All Umno bigwigs will fall back on the NEP and the three ketuanan policies (special rights, malay master, Islam) when under political pressure. And to think that Mahathir was working towards changing the mindset of the malays! What cock was he talking about?
Malaysia economy is being monopolised by Umno which benefited by a few individuals only. By agreeing to FTA with America will benefit the majority instead.
NEP is all bullshit and it does not benefit malays at all. It only benefit a few individuals, people must realised that by opening up Malaysia economy to FTA, the wealth will spreads evenly among the people.
NEP is monopolized policies and it does not benefit malays as well, but if it does how the malays are still poor? So don't listen to these bastards lies. What they do are for their own benefits only, nothing more.
If you guys are expecting moron Hisham to apologise - you can forget about it. Numbskulls only react and ask pope to apologise over remarks and they are willing to kill over it.
And here we have one dumb oaf Nazri whose mouth moves faster than his brain. I wonder if this is what they learn from Umno because we have seen so many moronic Umno members who speak so fast that their own brain can't digest.
Top 5 Umno no brain members.
1. Badawi
2. Najib
3. Hisham
4. Nazri
5. Khairy
Just put it very simply, our Malaysia country is not competitive enough that we no longer could afford to hire our talents in overseas back. The environment is just not conducive for further development.
For those who wish to sell short to come back, there must be a good reason. Why bother to come back if you know that you are not appreciated? Patriotism is not a good reason as it is illogical to say that one is not patriotic if one is working or living overseas.
The latest slogan I heard from Singapore is that one could venture overseas as far as he could, but the heart is always welcome to be with home, Singapore. Overseas Singaporeans did come back solely for their national day celebration. I think this is a more liberal way of thinking. The world is flat now.
Either way, one has to make his own decision to make a choice to be out or in. After all, our society has become very sick and corrupted such that white or black, wrong or right is indistinguishable. Idiotic loyalty is unwise. You just have to make your own way to seek a better future for your self and your family.
Affirmative policies which the government is adopting will do more harm than good to the proud "Bangsa Melayu". That is why after five decades of independence, their inferiority complex is still very much prevalent among them.
Further, how much progress have they made internationally? Virtually none or if there is, I dare say, is insignificant. Other races have made headlines in the international arena, including being top executives of major multinational corporations.
Some have even made it in Hollywood! If you are talking about our local guys, people like Zang Toi, a Chinese designer from Kelantan, and Dato Jimmy Choo, famous for his shoes, are worldwide brands.
If the NEP continues in its current form, the malay community may face the danger of sinking into oblivion in the sea of vast technological and economic changes which our world is constantly experiencing.
Forget this towering Malaysians bit. After 50 years there is no Malaysians but only Malays, Indians and Chinese. Forget patriotism - there is no such thing. All this talk about NEP is just a smokescreen, a mechanism for Umno leaders to enrich themselves, siblings and offspring - at the expense of working class Malays, Indians and Chinese.
The smart ones with special talents like "eco" would emigrate with or without the discrimination. It is the "pull" factor and not the "push" factor that decides where people like eco will make their home.
To us ordinary folks, with dreams of making something out of our lives, I say follow your instinct and look for that Promised Land.
We should be grateful to the government of Malaysia for starting the exodus. We are what we are today, like I always say, "Not in spite of the discriminatory policy but because of it."
Some of us prefer to be birds of fine weather. That is fine too.
Slowly and steadily, the middle class Malaysians are moving overseas, be it the US, UK, Singapore or Australia. Not because we are unpatriotic but because we do not want our next generation to endure the state sponsored racial discrimination that we had to endured for so long.
It is the adults who teach hate and discrimination to the kids who in the end become the racist that they are. My best friends in primary school and secondary schools are malays and Indians.
We don't realize that non-malays have lesser opportunities to go to tertiary education. When I see that my country is actually engaging in state sponsored racial discrimination segregation laws later in my life, I am deeply disappointed that while we are taught moral values and all the values of Malaysia in school, that it is actually not being practised in our daily life.
When you have these "push" factors in place, when non-malays have the opportunities or when they are fed up with the policy of the country they will leave the country and will never come back to contribute to the country.
As a lot of these politicians who wield keris and the other radicals want the non-malays to get off the land, they do not realized that as much as they think they do not need us, they actually do.
I second one opinion, my parents did not have a choice back then. I have a choice now, I am choosing to develop elsewhere. Not because I am unpatriotic, but I do not want my tax money to go into incompetent BN politicians pocket or any other maggots associated with them.
Now my tax money will go to a deserving country where I feel I am not being shortchanged. You will be surprised how many young non-malay Malaysians will end up building US, UK, Singapore, Canada and Australia. We owe this to our parents and to our next generations who never had the chance.
my parents didnt teach racism to me,nobody teach racism to me,in fact i found out racism on my own as i am not rich and in order to survive in this country due to the government policy.i had many other races friends,some of them are rich and the country's NEP is not a problem to them.when i get good results in exam i wanted to get in to local U ,but the government siad they prefer bumiputra first! so MCA decide to solbe these problem by building UNITAR on chinese donations but UMNO said MCA is taking advantage on the weak malays!we had been hearing mahathir supporting nelson mandela but what a double standard!when condemning apartheid it is ok,but our bumiputra policy?some leader from another country should condemn this kind of bumiputra favoritism in UN ,let the malaysian government taste their own medicine!
lee kuan yew,former malaysian and now singaporean said the whole truth ,chinese in malaysia are treated second class e.g admission into local U, promotion in the government ,army and police(malays are promoted first not based on qualification),so MCA and Gerakan tried to cover up because they are rich and their relatives had PR overseas!(so no problem for them)lee kuan yew knows that for sure and he should condemn this kind of "bumiputrateid" in UN,no need to apologise to malaysia!there is none so blind who cannot see!
DAP agrees with Lee Kuan Yew, slams BN leaders
malaysiakini
Sep 23, 06 5:11pm
Politics of denial!
This is how opposition party DAP views the objection raised by Barisan Nasional (BN) leaders to Singapore Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew’s claim that Chinese Malaysians are marginalised.
DAP secretary-general Lim Guan Eng expressed ‘disgust’ with MCA president Ong Ka Ting and Gerakan top leaders Dr Lim Keng Yaik and Dr Koh Tsu Koon for denying an ‘obvious fact’.
“... The Chinese and other non-Chinese have been systematically marginalised by discriminatory government policies that only favour the rich and politically connected,” he said in a statement today.
“Such politics of denial is dishonest as BN leaders themselves have stated that discriminatory policies such as quotas and the New Economic Policy (NEP) are necessary for racial harmony and national stability,” he added.
He said as long as BN leaders, including former premier Dr Mahathir Mohamad, cannot rely on reason, facts and logic to disprove Lee’s claim, then “their emotional denials are like empty vessels making the most noise to cover up the politics of Umno dominance and discrimination.”
Perverse logic
The DAP leader also took Koh to task for saying that the minister mentor did not understand and appreciate the challenges in administering a country bigger, more complicated and diverse than Singapore.
“This is perverse logic. If so, then can we support the apartheid policies of South Africa in the 1980s just because South Africa is bigger, more diverse and complicated than Malaysia?
“How can Koh (who is also Penang chief minister) be so thick skin to say the Chinese are not compliant when he was compliant towards Umno by not daring to even respond to the attacks by Penang Umno Youth leaders who humiliated him publicly with demonstrations and banners?” he asked.
Lim then trained his crosshairs on the MCA president, who argued that it was unfair and subjective to say the Chinese in Malaysia are marginalised because any injustices will be resolved by MCA.
“If that is the case, why is it that in cabinet, four MCA ministers could not convince but had to submit and bow to one Education Minister Hishammuddin Hussein?” he asked.
He was referring to Hishammuddin’s public admonishing of Deputy Higher Education Minister and MCA vice-president Ong Tee Keat over a disclosure that Education Ministry officials had allegedly pocketed funds meant for vernacular schools.
Tee Keat was also reprimanded by the cabinet for his action.
“(What is) worse, Ong has not explained why he supported the Ninth Malaysia Plan’s refusal to build a single Chinese or Tamil school out of the 180 new primary schools proposed,” he added.
'Selfish acts'
As for Keng Yaik’s statement that the “Chinese here will not follow and listen to what he says”, Lim said it reflected how out of touch BN leaders are with the feelings of ordinary Malaysians.
At a press conference yesterday, Keng Yaik, who is Gerakan president, urged journalists to report that what Lee had said “was wrong, wrong.”
Meanwhile, Lim described the ‘false denials’ by BN’s Chinese leaders as ‘selfish and politically motivated’ to enable them to cling on to their government posts.
Lee ruffled feathers recently when he said that the Chinese in Malaysia and Indonesia have been systematically marginalised.
He said this was because Malaysia and Indonesia had problems with the Chinese because the community was successful through their hard work.
“In fact, Lee is half right in that it is not only the Chinese who are marginalised. The Indians and poor Malays are also marginalised,” said the DAP secretary-general.
Education in Malaysia is a big joke. It is systematically being damaged, degraded, destroyed and impaired, by the BN government ever since after Tunku. Why? So that the BN leaders kids can be comparatively better than common plebeians.
Why do you think they send their kids to overseas or private schools at a young age! They have no intention of sharing the rubbish education here period. Badawi like the big fool that he is blindly following it but christened it as his way. What joke!
The Chinese are not in control of the economy at all. Consider this:
Tenaga, Telekom, Proton, Petronas, Maybank, Genting accounts for more than 50% of the market capitalization of KLSE.
So basically malays already control more than 50% of the economy.
But problem is, only a few malays enjoy ownership of the economy and businesses while the rest are bleed dry. These people are millionaires and billionaires men. That is where the lies about the Chinese controlling the economy comes in, to keep themselves in that position.
So the ordinary malays are angry because they feel the Chinese stole their money. The Chinese and Indians and others are angry because they feel they are further discriminated on top of discrimination.
Non-malays, on the other hand, owned only 10% of such equity.
People like the Robert Kuok group were so pissed that the government pressure them to sell their business, they shifted their headquarter to Hong Kong. But when we want the world to see that one of the richest tycoons is from Malaysia, when we want fame, we said Robert Kuok is from Malaysia, not knowing that he has long gone.
What minister mentor Lee Kuan Yew has said is absolutely true. It is a simple fact. The Chinese and Indians have been marginalised since 1957, so what is new?
While the Chinese have been economically strong, the Indians have been lagging behind, simply by being a minority race in Malaysia and by being led by a complete moron for the last three decades. What is Najib so upset about?
Prove your worth as a race that can stand on theirs own two feet and succeed and you will have our respect. Until then, please just stop making a complete idiot of yourself and shut your gap.
This goes for the entire Malaysia cabinet. You are all a disgrace and a bunch of corrupt hypocrates! Malaysia would have been much better off if it had remained a British colony. Only then would there have been equality.
The malay are fall into the trap of other Umno-malays should treat like shits in Malaysia. When we demand over basic right, they always like to quote Singapore malays on not holding public position……….Please la, Singapore practise the real meritocracy, not the fake one like Malaysia.
And this make Singapore malays stand high when compare to Malaysia malays.
What make the Malaysian Chinese not happy is, we already being discriminated by our home country, when anything go wrong in Umno or in malay community, the Malaysian Chinese will be the target - for shooting or divert their the attention to their own problems.
Have you wondered why there are fewer Indians than malays in the general population in Singapore, that there are many more Indians than malays in high positions in politics, medicine, law, business, and many other fields that require talent and hard work in Singapore!
In Malaysia, there are tongkat or crutches available, but in meritocratic Singapore, even the smaller minority Indians outperform the bigger minority malays.
To Chinese, education is the most important thing to their next generation, so don't ask me why Chinese insist to have own stream of education until today.
To tell you frankly, I feel much comfortable when I move to UK, after few years I know they will offer me citizenship being a professional here. And as far as I know, there isn't a classification on the citizenship, I will get equal treatment as others fairly.
If you dare, Najis, if you have the balls, let us appoint an international commission, made up of businessmen, educators, judges, lawyers, professionals, and carry out a systematic research and come up with a report, to see if the Chinese in Malaysia have or have not been systematically marginalized over the past 50 years.
Have you got the balls to play ball? You have not for sure, you are chicken, a chicken who talks cock.
Nah!
However, despite the systematic disadvantage, the Chinese work hard, and become successful, yet your lazy bums species get jealous, start waving keris, unhappy, we are the master, we deserve this, we own this land, we want 30%, we want that, we were here first (forget about the Orang Asli), blah blah blah……….Shame on you.
Where is your dignity?
Shitting cock. Talking cock. Walking cock.
You are one sad lousy stupid shameless cock.
Humans have always migrated throughout history - 'in search of better lives'. It is in our blood. Animals also do it. Some prefer to settle, others move on at whatever odds. The Chinese race is a good example of enthusiastic migrants. The Scots yet another.
Take the example of my own extended family. My father, who came from a poor family, emigrated together with his late father and late elder brother from Guangdong to Ipoh in 1923. The price they paid was separation from my late grandmother for a couple of years.
When reunited, the family expanded to a total of 10 children. Within one generation, eight of these children were able to go to university in Malaya (Singapore) and the UK. Three of these were Queen's scholars and another, a Colombo Plan scholar. This was during the time of the British, with free and fair competition prevailing.
Within another generation, my family were all dispersed around the world. Today, we have family in the US, UK, the Middle East and Australia. There are only two families left in Bolehland (Malaysia) from the previous generation - and they are retired.
In this generation, we have 13 doctors - all but one specialists - with one the holder of personal chair in a UK university. I am sure all of us can attribute our various successes to being at the right place at the right time and also by being diligent, open minded and persistent.
The argument has nothing to do with patriotism or race. We all love Malaysia as a country but we objected to the form and type of governance and the society it created during various times.
This spurred our migration and our decision to work and live away from the land we were born in. Some of us have even maintained our Malaysian citizenship in hope that things will change and we may be able to return.
Nonetheless, we are thankful that we have not been hindered in our move across borders. We are also thankful that holding a Malaysian passport today will facilitate movement between many countries compared to say, 20 years ago.
In short, our leaving was our silent, peaceful protest. It will of course fall on deaf ears because the existing muhibah ruling class will only be interested in furthering their own wealth and well-being and not those of the rakyat. Fortunately for some of us, we could vote with our feet. So let it be.
We take a larger global view and see that we contribute to the world, not directly Bolehland. My question is: Have you considered that those who do not migrate are the ones who are truly enslaved?
And to the present government I ask: How do you think you could lure people like us back? (Hint: Better money would not work - as we get less where we all are.)
Lee Kuan Yew is a highly respected statesman throughout the world. Bapa corruption Mahathir, well he is been deemed a pariah by his own malay community.
The people who suffer most in this country due to this racist Umno strategy unfortunately are the ordinary malays.
The people who benefit the most are the Umno-malays, BN-goons and of course the handful of crooked non-malay businessmen, who are in cahoots with these politicians to rape the country.
It makes me sad that the malays do not realise the truth about how they are being misguided by the Umno-malays.
Saying Singapore is easy to govern because it is a small country is such a stupid argument. Penang, Kuala Lumpur, Johor are all much much smaller than Singapore but how do we match them in terms of development?
My advice is that we listen to this Lee great statesman and try to learn from him instead of going into a state of denial.
I propose that the Chinese Malaysians pull out of Malaysia and set up our own state, just like Singapore and be a successful nation. This new country will be a secular country that values real democracy, diversity, equality, freedom, justice, equal opportunities and equal treatment for all.
There will be no place for corruption, incompetence, racial discrimination, religious discrimination and social injustice. I am sure there will be no short of Chinese Malaysians, Indian Malaysians and even malay Malaysians who will want to live in this new country.
Perhaps Penang will offer to pull out of the federation and be the second Singapore? It is time for the people of Penang to demand a referendum!
I am an academician (European) working in a local university in Malaysia. It took me years to understand what is going on here.
In a Malaysia university there is no space for talented and hardworking individuals if they are not with the right color. These will face heavy mobbing and will be tracked down to a point that they humiliated, destroyed, crushed and cracked down.
No respect is given for knowledge. They do not accept excellence from foreign. Please never ever send foreign students there, they will be humiliated and crushed down by powerful idiots (especially malays).
I believed in that country once, I was wrong. All their infamous university local propaganda makes me vomit.
Last term there was a girl from Malaysia, who shared the same elective with me. Her spoken Chinese is so good that none of my class (European) found that she was from Malaysia until she told us.
I have also met some Malaysians who speak really good Chinese. At least the government in Malaysia (unlike the government of Indonesia until recently) didn't prohibit the learning of Chinese, although the Tunku in the 1960s viewed the Chinese with extreme suspicion due to the attempted coup (which was largely Chinese) in Indonesia.
It is really sad to see Malaysia in such condition. And the situation keep getting worse.
Just have a look at the crime rate, education system, policies made by the ministers, and you will very soon realized that Malaysia is a sinking Titanic.
Those are some of the things that shape the future of one country and they are not in good shape at all. Unless fairness, justice and transparency are being upheld, I think there is really very little hope left for this country.
The people sitting at the corridor of power are indeed corrupted and incapable. They are sinking this country.
This is possible in any country that is not democratic and transparent. It isn't a matter of if, but when!
One thing for sure is for those non-malay graduates who have graduated are they prefer to develop elsewhere, most probably US, UK, Singapore and Australia.
They need not to come back as the Umno government doesn't give a damn of the non-malay graduates background. What the prime minister is more interested is developing his own religion and race. But still the non-malays can afford to emigrate and develop elsewhere.
Is not that we choose to follow this way, but instead we are being forced to develop elsewhere. Everyday I am sick of hearing their sweet promises and excuses. Today I give you this and that. Tomorrow comes something else. In the end it was a pure rotten egg.
No wonder I got 5 out of 10 friends settling down in Australia after their graduations. Ask them about the Malaysia politics, none are interested. Ask them about the local education system, none bothered. So I ask them why do they come back to Malaysia during holidays!
Well, the answer is to renew their passport or IC. Most come back to meet up with old friends and to celebrate new year with their beloved families. That is it. A simple well-mannered honest answer.
Nobody would say I would come back for the national day or even during king birthday. The sense of patriotism just isn't there.
I am saddened and confused for this ongoing bias treatment from the government. My final piece of advice for those who is studying overseas. Don't waste your time ever by coming back unless the government changes its policy. Try to develop elsewhere.
Good luck.
Just wonder...
since everyone saying khairy from oxford, what course did he do there and did he pass him exam and did well?
some friend making jokes he probably studied "advance al quran" there or maybe just go there and finish a short course...
No offence... but All i can see, he behaves like a 30 year old body, 12 year old mind person.
Is he trying to be a "warrior/idol" or he is trying to change the country to be a better place?
big sucko... stop saying he is from oxford, my maid never go to school, but her way of thinking to change indonesia to be a better place is more making sense than khairy.
Maybe my friend is right.. he only did a short course about gardening in oxford for three months.
Khairy from OX Fart
The Malays should be aware that once again the elites Malay is using the poor Malay to rob from others. If Umno take over Penang, its the Khairy elite who will rob from the Penang people, are the poor Malay are to gain anything?
Already corruption is all the way to the highest level, but the common Malay people just sit and keep quiet waiting for someone else like DAP to voice out!
Khairy memang liabiliti bukan saja untuk UMNO tapi juga liabiliti Negara Malaysia. Apa guna belajar sampai Oxford kalau masih guna teknik perkauman untuk mendapat sokongan?
Tak cukup dengan itu, buat demontrasi bila Gondeleza Rice sampai kat Malaysia dengan kenyataan "Rice, You are not Welcome here" . Padahal Bapak mertua dia yang jemput dia datang. Cakap tak serupa bikin. Sia-sia saja belajar kat negara orang putih.
Isu pembelian Saham ECM Libra juga berbau kronime & ada unsur-unsur korupt. Ingat senang ke nak dapat pinjaman berjuta-juta dari bank kalau bukan lkerana ada unsur penyalahan guna kuasa.
"Sesungguhnya perjuangan UMNO sekarang adalah perjuangan untuk Kroni-kroni sahaja. Kalau nak tolong melayu, tolonglah golongan petani, nelayan, peniaga kecil yang "di Marginalise" Bukan tolong segolongan kecil dengan AP dan kontrak kerajaan yang berjuta-juta ringgit.
Khairy boleh "BLAH"
Fucklah bangang
siapa kata khairy liability?
dia bijak lagi handsom
dia muda lagi berkuasa
dia berkereta mewah lagi beristeri cantik
dan...................
ramai kawan juga bersetuja dengan saya dia bukan liability tapi adalah t*hi.....
ya......dia macam t*hi.........
sebab busok jadi ramia orang elakkan BN
sebab busok pak lah pula tercemar
sebab busok jadi dihina orang ramai
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