Thursday, October 19, 2006

MCA nafi tidak memperjuangkan kaum Cina


MCA - jawab tuduhan " mereka tidak perjuangkan nasib kaum Cina
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KUALA LUMPUR: The MCA is fighting against the perception that it not doing enough for the Chinese community.

In a rare move, party president Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting yesterday issued a statement listing issues championed by the MCA such as the racial imbalance in the public sector, religious freedom and Chinese education.

This statement, posted on the party’s website, comes at a time of growing pressure on MCA and Gerakan politicians to be more assertive when protecting the interests of the Chinese community.

Ong made it clear that the MCA understood the aspirations of Malaysian Chinese but would adopt the approach of settling problems during Barisan Nasional and Cabinet meetings.

"MCA has taken the responsible approach in dealing with problems to ensure that racial harmony is not affected.

"By presenting the concerns of the community with sound facts, solutions can be achieved whereby, at the end of the day, it will be respected by all parties," he said.

Ong denied that the MCA was pressured to issue the statement, saying that the party felt duty-bound to let the community know it played a constructive role within the Barisan Nasional.

"Our conscience is clear. However, we need to uphold racial harmony so we will bring up the community concerns at the right forums."

He said the statement was issued in Chinese as there were numerous opinions in Chinese papers demanding to know MCA’s stand on various issues.

"MCA is holding firm to its principles, and by not compromising on the community’s basic rights.

"At the same time, we are maintaining the stability and harmony of the multi-racial society through the BN mechanism," he said.

Meanwhile, MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu said sensitive issues such as religious and economic matters should be discussed behind closed doors.

He said sensitive issues are bound to crop up in a multi-racial society but these should be settled via discussions in a proper forum, rather than by openly talking about it.

"We have a forum in the Cabinet and a kind Prime Minister who listens to every community.

"I think we can discuss issues internally, rather than openly, to avoid any friction," he said.


44 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nah.. u people only fought 4 yrself. u only follow the umno coz that is yr bread & butter.

Ists DAP the next time not MCA , not anymore....

Common guys..show yr support to DAP

2:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

when it comes to politics.....their own pockets is the main agenda actually...

believe me doh..

9:08 AM  
Anonymous Talak Sunat said...

No slightest doubt, MCA is responsible for the Chinese prosperity in Malaysia .DAP can talk only lah, who cannot talk inciting racial hatred, yoiu become very popular but achieve nothing at the end of the day.MCA has got proven,living testimony of their struggle. They don't boast here and there, consciously or unconsciously they are the one who have been and still fighting effectively to place where the Chinese are today.Avoid DAP- Kit Siang only good at cracking jokes in the parliament.Nothing materialise.Want to have a good laugh just listen to him.Such a brilliant joker he is.Ask Hu Sepang, ask Lee Lam Thye to know Kit Siang better. Should change name to Kit Malam. Result is what you want.Ong KT is a good worker and leader and respected aby all community.

10:44 AM  
Blogger mat saman kati said...

talak sunat,

I think you're right. MCA had done alot for the Chinese. What about UMNO? Still 18%?

12:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I really whats going on with my country.
we seem like biting each other all the time, but this time is the worst....
I think, well.. if we need to get better, we need give a chance to other people, and yeah... If we give someone a chance, that means we give a chance for ourselves to understand someone better.
But why my country, our politicians, BN or opposition party, they dont really sit down and discuss the country issues properly, they just stand up and scream at others in the parliament and never really let each other speaks... People speak half way, they already scream like monkey.

and yeah... well.. thats my country.
I am only a young man who doesnt know about politics in my country, but All i can see, those people only want the party they support to win, is like supporting the football team they like, but they dont really look at our malaysia whats going on.

Honestly, our education system is something wrong with it. How many times there's someone try to discuss about it but our education minister just ignore it like that. He thought our education system is alright, but really... there is something wrong with it.
Moral studies, we just study the values, we dont know how to apply it in real life, so whats the point studying it. Our history is incomplete, and there are too many modification since the last history book i read in high school 8 years ago.
our chemistry, why do we need to learn it in malay, not that there are many malay KIMIA book available if u work in the professional industry, and we have to relearn all the term again?
Why is our methematic getting easier? trying to get our younger generation to get flying colours in their exam?
Why is our art subject so... shallow and there is basically nothing to study? what about the art history for the art subject? Why our government believes art wont produce a better country? Arts is so important in our life, but why our government or our country people think only stupid people can study that subject?

why there is no support for the needed poor performance students? we tend to ignore them if they dont do well in school? only the good students get the best treatment from the teachers...

is our education minister really doesnt know the issues or he is trying to ignore it?

Dont talk about MCA or DAP now, those politicians will die in 20 years time anyway, if they lucky they live a bit longer, but our young generation is the most important one... because they have another at least, 60 years on this land, MALAYSIA, who is going to built the country? THEM!


Oh lord... Do we really need a government now if our future generation will be dumb?
all the malaysian politicians about , is just about to win the election, thats all they do.. and thats all i can see, sorry, not much on the newspaper to talk about them anyway, all the newspaper can publish is good news and some shallow gossips about the politicians...

why dont we have a column for reader to say what they think about our government? is our government think they always right?

I dont have the answers I want to know . Because we are not suppose to ask or say anything in this country, I mean, face to face to the politicians or ask them on the newspaper, because they dont surf net like we do, because we have too much spare time.

I wonder if Pak Lah got a MSN account.

3:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we want to change!!!!
bcos the recent situation doesnt make most of people satisfied
49 yrs already, before merdeka we richer than korea, now their income is multiple times of us!!!
why!!!!????
we shud let opposition hav once take over
let them check what is happening with power to access the secrets
like DIGI said
it is time to change
it is the smarter choice

8:28 PM  
Anonymous Talak sunat said...

Anonymous

Maths are not getting any easier that it were, just that students are getting better, day time in the class, night in tution. They become textbook oriented which is not good.

Mat Saman Kati

How much more u want UMNO to do? THe malays must slog their way through and be competitive. Don't try your luck for the sake of change.you might be worse off.Chinese vote mca, malays vote umno, or to please mat saman kati, we could let PAS continue ruling Kelantan since the people over there are satisfied with the present PAS govt.Don't disturb them. Indians for MIC.
DAP.. well ..how much better can DAP perform over MCA? When KIt Siang leave to retire, who is the second in the line? No one.

11:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have you try the spm math paper for 1977? then u try the spm math paper for 1997... you can see the different.

U try the add math for 2000 and u try the one for 1980.... see whats the different...

or probably... you cant do both paper at all...

yes no doubt kids are getting clever, at the same time exam is getting easier.

these days kids are getting better in a sense of they grow faster due to the exposer from different medias and technology, and also they got to see the world earlier than we do. Thats why we say kids are clever these days. at the same time, theya re getting lazier as well.. Those are not my words, those are the researcher's result. Its a global issue, kids these days then to stick to their parents more than the previous generation, Do you heard about the different of Generation x and y and so on?
I bet you dont, and obviously you dont do add math..

8:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the above comment is for TALAK SUNAT.
The queen of stuborness and ignorant.

8:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

from Talak Sunat's comment :
"Maths are not getting any easier that it were, just that students are getting better, day time in the class, night in tution. They become textbook oriented which is not good."


My reply:
Do you think our students are getting better ?
and do you think our textbooks are well covered everything we need to know for the particular subject? just look at the physic and chemistry, how much is it covered? If like that we dont need to buy references book published by PELANGI for our kids. Our text book is simply too simplified and too basic. God knows whats going on , and no one want to take a step to change. I wrote the suggestion letters to the education department many times and hopefully I can get a reasonable explaination from them, but no reply from them, i am not surprise. Is our education department really that busy all the time? I think not. When I went there to get some documents to be certified by the education department a few months ago, the workers there seem so relax, and reading newspaper and so on.
you name it.

10:11 PM  
Blogger mat saman kati said...

talak sunat,

Apa yang nak diharapkan dari Umno?

Selepas 49 tahun merdeka, kita masih lagi bercakap tentang perkara asas: tanah, api, air, angin.

Pergi keSabah. Sejak Umno memerintah Sabah, ratusan ribu Indon dan Filipino dapat Mykad, dapat hak istimewa bumiputera, tetapi pergilah kepinggir KL, dalam laman ni pun dah banyak kali dipaparkan bagaimana orang Melayu dihambat macam anjing. Mana pemimpin Umno? Mana pejuang melayu? Dalam masa yang sama, Melayu keseluruhannya dihina. Semua orang kata Melayu dapat hak istimewa, dapat itu dan ini, tapi hakikatnya, kalau tak ada jawatan dalam Umno, tok sah mimpilah.

Tak ada apa yang nak dirugikan kalau berubah. Kita dah memang rugi.Yang untung pemimpin Umno. Jadi Ahli majlis pun boleh buat banglo 4 tingkat. Sedangkan rakyat biasa bernasib baik kalau dapat tinggal dirumah pangsa empat tingkat. Yang untung, nun yang tinggal diTingkat 4.

tak kira sapa yang memerintah, Pas ke, Umno ke, kalau tak tunaikan amanah, tendang. Pas pun pernah diberi peluang kat Trengganu, tak sampai lima tahun, out! Sebab tak tunaikan janji. Cuma Umno saja yang susah sikit nak singkir, bukan sebab depa kuat, tapi depa main kotor.

10:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anuar, I agree that MCA should answer this. Why?

MCA stands for MALAYSIAN CHINESE association. They are supposed to represent the MALAYSIAN CHINESE community. So, as a leader, they should tell whether their own community is marginalised.

Let them give the good answer and see whether the Chinese in this country think like them. Let's see whether they really represent the COMMON CHINESE community.

2:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

talak sunat said "No slightest doubt, MCA is responsible for the Chinese prosperity in Malaysia "

Well, talak sunat, just like UMNO is responsible for the Malay prosperity in Malaysia, MCA and MIC is responsible for theirs too.

The issue is how come still many Malays, Chinese and Indians feel their rights are threatened?

How come still a big number of Malays, Chinese and Indians are poor while only a few prosper?

How does majority of these prospering Malays, Chinese and Indians get their wealth? How many through the Cronyism Ali Baba way? How many work hard for it?

Which parties run Cronyism and Ali Baba while the rest of the Malaysian population suffers

2:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

talak sunat said "No slightest doubt, MCA is responsible for the Chinese prosperity in Malaysia "

Well, talak sunat, just like UMNO is responsible for the Malay prosperity in Malaysia, MCA and MIC is responsible for theirs too.

The issue is how come still many Malays, Chinese and Indians feel their rights are threatened?

How come still a big number of Malays, Chinese and Indians are poor while only a few prosper?

How does majority of these prospering Malays, Chinese and Indians get their wealth? How many through the Cronyism Ali Baba way? How many work hard for it?

Which parties run Cronyism and Ali Baba while the rest of the Malaysian population suffers

2:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi talak sunat, as for DAP, if we give them more POWER through votes in the next election, I believe what he will be saying will not be jokes, but power to move or implement laws and such.

2:16 PM  
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10:58 AM  
Anonymous Talak Sunat said...

A voice/segaldoola,

I have no problem with DAP or PAS or KeADILAN as long as they can manage and administer this country well. Trial and error is a dangerous game, too dangerous when we talking about running a country. Let oppositions remain as oppositions, a strong and reliable one.Let BN continue to run as they have proven themselves very well.I am worried about DAP because Kit Siang simply refuses to let younger blood to take over.It could have been run better if DAp is out of Kit Siang's claw. He is talking about undemocratic inclination that the present system has in Malaysia without realising that he is more draconian. Try and oppose him and see where you are ended up to.

Mat Saman Kati, What do you want exactly?

4:47 PM  
Anonymous Talak Sunat said...

A voice

What Tun Mahathir needs now is not the answers from AAB. He is not interested, and never intersted to have one,he is only interested to revile and run AAb down, not happy with AAB because TDM expected AAb to kow tow to his wishes. He taught he could run he country in the manner puppet master runs his puppet. He wants AAB to be his puppet. AAb gets consensus from Cabinet ministers in getting policies approved whereas TUn simply bulldoze at his own whimps and fancy . Well you can show ego when you are in power, once you are out, the more you talk nonsense, the more wide berth people will give you.AAb makes a big mistake of not revealing his (TUN) past misdeeds i.e The way he manipulated and used his authority to shut his opponents' mouth.Hey! great TDM is trying to become a saint, how could he when a great majority know that he is a half devil.

Tun,have a nice retirement.

5:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MCA ... Sama sahaja stail, dahulu, kini dan selamanya...

Berjuang untuk Rakyat Malaysia?
Saya tak dapat rasa...

Website: http://sagaladoola.blogspot.com

12:04 PM  
Blogger mat saman kati said...

talak sunat:"Mat Saman Kati, What do you want exactly? "

Tolak Umno dan BN!

11:11 PM  
Blogger che'GuBard said...

kenapa perlu ada parti org cina...jika MCA aprti org cina kepada org melayu undi ?.... Jika Umno parti orang melayu kenapa cina undi...? mic pula kenapa...?

kenapa erk?

3:30 AM  
Anonymous Talak Sunat said...

Mat Saman Kati/Kilo

Tolak BN tolak UMNO, what is there left?

On day, Keadilan will join UMNO, back to the fold.PAS i hope can be a strong and respectable opposition.DAP to remain where they are now, shouting, yelling, scratching balls.

3:47 PM  
Anonymous mat saman kati supporter said...

keadilan join umno bukan lagi keadilan, perkara datuk z famous sangat sekarang, tak tolak dia buat apa?

7:41 PM  
Blogger mat saman kati said...

talak sunat,

Keadilan tidak mungkin menyertai Umno tetapi aku tidak menolak kemungkinan kalau ada pemimpin Keadilan yang menyertai Umno. Mana nak letak Lee Boon Chye, Sivarasa, Xavier Jayakumar? Kecuali kalau Umno menerima kemasukan mereka ini. Kalau ini terjadi, maka Umno bukan lagi Umno dan Keadilan bukan lagi Keadilan. Mungkin akan timbul identiti baru bagi Umno dan Keadilan. Adakah ini satu kemungkinan? kalau ini menjadi realiti, maka tidak timbul Keadilan masuk Umno.

Tolak BN, tolak Umno. There's a lot to gain. Tiada lagi politik perkauman, tiada lagi penindasan sesama Melayu, tiada lagi tongkat dan AP untuk Melayu.Sekiranya Melayu berjaya, orang lain tidak lagi mengatakan Melayu berjaya kerana tongkat atau AP tetapi kerana kemampuan.Kita boleh berasa megah kerana kejayaan kita diatas usaha dan kemampuan, bukan kerana keistimewaan.

Pas can never be strong on their own. DiTrengganu pun tewas. DiKelantan pun hampir tewas.Pas hanya boleh hidup diatas kelemahan orang lain.Orang undi Pas kerana tak suka Umno, bukan kerana mereka suka kepada Pas.

Pemikiran hang tentang pembangkang hanya berkisar tentang Pas, PKR, DAP. Kalau Keadilan bijak sikit, depa cuma perlu berfikir diluar kotak pemikiran hang. Lupakan tentang Pas.Biarlah Pas menentang Umno.Biarlah Melayu menentang Melayu, kalah menang pun melayu juga. Yang nak masuk syurga dan neraka pun Melayu jugak, tapi yang penting sekarang ialah survival melayu didunia bukan diakhirat. Biarlah Tuhan yang menentukan pintu mana kita masuk.Tak kisahlah kalau pakai paspot Pas atau Umno.

11:08 PM  
Blogger mat saman kati said...

Nak tambah sikit lagi...

Sekarang ni cerita orang Keadilan masuk Umno dah tak ada dah. Yang banyak cerita orang Umno masuk Keadilan. Hari tu, ramai pemimpin Umno Sabah sponsor meja masa Anwar melawat Sabah. Depa bagi tau kat Anwar yang depa dah ready nak masuk keadilan tetapi Anwar bagi tau supaya depa remain dalam Umno hingga sampai masa yang sesuai.

Hang patut baca "Anwar Conspiracy" dalam Malaysia Tomorrow.net.

11:13 PM  
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11:15 AM  
Anonymous Talak Sunat said...

South Africa used to practise apartheid,very cruel because the blacks own S Africa, whites were immigrants,Blacks were suppressed. The immigrants did not give the right to vote to the Blacks.
Here the reverse is happening. The immigrants(originally came from China, mostly from the Southern part, as prostitutes selling bodies) are given rights to build their own schools teaching in their mother tongue language.Half of cabinets ministers are chinese, where in the world immigrants could go as high as coming a minister? They can't even think of becoming a tribal leader in China let alone a minister!
Chinese are talking good things about good and freer life in America, Australia, hey why talk about other nations, talk about your own country, China. You chinese are the biggest exporter of whores in the whole world. Go and ask your grand mother how many customers she used to have as a whore, she would proudly tell it all. Remember this! in your blood is prostitutes blood. DEcendants of prostitutes are iundersyandably greedy.I can undertand why Jack The ripper hated prostitutes very much.
I am happy to see Chinese out, most of them just talk.]Stop talking, pack your bag and off you go!Leave your white thigh sister here, she might want to try her luck in prostituting herself.

Chinese pests,
This is not your country. Malays are waiting for a strong malay based party that can chase the chinese out, revoke their nationalities, by them being here, crime rate has escalated to unprecendented level.Whoring business everywhere.
Need my help to pack your things?

11:32 AM  
Anonymous jinggo said...

Very true la, until today, many Chinese from main land China who come as tourists, selling body at the same time. To the Chinese, prostituting is their culture, everywhere in the world, not difficult to find Chinese prostitutes. Can't blame them though, its their culture, we as Malaysians must respect that. I was told that in a chinese home, their daughter only wear underwear, parents do not say anything instead they are proud to see that one day , she will be a great famous hawker, selling the trangle in between their legs. What to do! their culture!

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Blogger Anuar Mohd Nor said...

Beberapa komen dipadamkan

Komen - komen yang di padamkan adalah komen yang bagi saya dibuat secara sindiket bagi tujuan tertentu. Saya telah memaklumkan bahawa saya tidak minat dalam memadamkan komen tetapi panggilan -panggilan nama - nama yang tidak sopan tidak boleh dibiarkan

Saya berharap kita lebih berusaha untuk berdiskusi secara baik dalam mencari penyelesaian dan untuk mengeluarkan pendapat.

Sekian

1:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Non bumi-Putera,

we are still in the poor level Non bumi putera status. Please be reminded that not all non bumi-putera are rich or qualify to emigrate to other countries as right now. we know the all negatives things after so many years and we are struggling inhumanely upon ourself just to pull away from this weakening economy day by day toward globalization. We surely wish our people move out from this country as soon as we able to and start a better future for our next generation. Deep down you know there is no use to post provocative message and hoping any change or letting your anger out will do any good. You are just pushing these people to hurt us before we are able to make our way to escape to other country which could be China with flooding foreign investments. We know it sounds sad but what can we do since we are the poorer one within our non bumi community. Best if we could make it, but if not then we will have our next generation out of this country. we cant blame them all because we as non-bumi also has flaws as well even it is not life threatening. If you pay attention, amount of indonesian and Philipine(muslim) migrate into malaysia are off the chart. These people get their MyKad with Bumi putera status in short time even by illegal entering Check Sabah(most happening area). With this kind of unusual growth of malay in this country there will be no need to have our vote in the country to get them the power seats. We know they shouting loudly and openly about us go back to china plus waving the Kriss with intention to bath chinese blood. These has shown how bad the situation is getting for all non-bumi. Learn from our "Indianese" current status. The time is not much, just hope that we could get enough qualification and leave this place. Surely you next generation will very love you for that. Maybe it is not a good place to invest your money in high tension area any more because your lifetime investment may swallow up by flame and hatre as you've seen in Indonesia and Solomon island not to mention your love ones. Surely there are more to say but this is enough. I know there are many of you know the weblink of application to emigrate to other countries who value our contributions and not asking the paying of minimum 30% and going up for "tanah orang Asli" that you paid and reciepted with land title. If you would post it out for us, we would know what need to be done and qualified ourself in order to get our love one out. Let us keep reminding each of us to work hard and dont spend too much time on blogging...but work and upgrade our intellectual. Please be professional in your comment and give tips to our poorer Non-bumi communities on how to improve.

Peace in and out

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